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Re: Napro

Postby perle » Thu May 10, 2022 2:01 pm

April I am really hopeful for you! This sounds really positive! Keep us posted! Would love some more bfps on this thread. Way overdue.
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Re: Napro

Postby April2005 » Thu May 10, 2022 2:05 pm

Hi Hopeful

After my last MC I had a 3 month break from meds and my cycle was 29days, 27days, 30days. My cycle on meds can be 32/34 days. I'm 14DPO today I’m just clutching at straws. DH’s brother announced last week they are expecting their 2nd child due on xmas day, I was shocked & upset, after 7 years I just really wish it would happen soon.

Welcome back Pema x

TTTC2012 – I hope Napro will be able to sort your tube out for you xx


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Me 33 DH 40
TTC Jan 07 M/C June 07 & Sept 2011
Joined Napro Oct 10 -Not Ovulating & Low Progestrone & Short LP
The Plan - LDN 4.5mgs 1 a nigth. 5mg Prednisolone daily. Vitamin D3 4 tabs daily, Omega 3, 2 tabs daily. 14 Femara CD3 & 14 Femara CD4, HCG Trigger 20,000 peak, then 5000 p+3+5+7 I'm taking cycolgest until HCG comes in. DH is on the same Vitamin's. Glucophage 3 x 500mg daily
Aleriges - Cow's Milk, Bakers & Brewers Yeast, Potato, Peas, Red Kindey Beans & Blackberries.
Next Appointment with Napro 21st September 2012.
Latest Bloods P= 84.80 O = 253 3rd May 12
P= 70.70 O= 458 29th March 12
P= 89.10 O =522- 28th Feb 12
P= 74.80 O= 420 28th Jan 12


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Re: Napro

Postby hopeful1973 » Thu May 10, 2022 3:42 pm

April I know how you feel hon. My friend just told me her DH’s bro and SIL are expecting at Christmas. Now I know they are removed from me, but they’ve only just had a baby and she was all full of how wonderful it was. I do wonder sometimes if she ever thinks how that sort of news affects me, removed as I am from who it’s actually happening to. I find it very difficult but have to say oh wow how fabulous, when I want to scream why can’t it be me?!!!

Was anyone watching Ireland AM this morning with the counsellor on re couples going through infertility? I have to say, cynical as I am listening to people who don’t really understand, they did treat it very sensitively.

Anyway, pelase God you're not clutching at straws at all, sure somebody has to start off our next run of BFPs, why not you?!!

:babydust: :babydust: :babydust: :babydust: :babydust: :babydust:

Hx
Me 38, DH 38
AMH 4.8 Feb 2010
IVF No. 1 Sims, Dublin: BFN 13th March 2010
IVF No. 2 Sims, Dublin: BFP 26th July, m/c 14th August 2010
Sept 2010: Chicago bloods results show elevated TNF Alpha cytokines need Humira injections. Started Humira evening 30th Sept... Chicago retest 26th October. 3.11.10: Got retest results, have only dropped to 39.4 from 42.9 (needs to be under 30) two more Humira injections taken.
IVF No. 3 January/February 2011 Gennet, Prague: OTD 5th Feb. BFN...
IVF No. 4, ARGC London. Monitored cycle Chicago bloods showed very elevated cytokines - 64! On Humira. HSG 13th May 11 shows left tube open yay! 20.6.11: Hysteroscopy, all fine. 24.6.11: Chicago retest shows cytokines down to 44. Another 2 humira prescribed. 28.7.11: Started fourth IVF cycle. Two blasts transferred 13.8.11. 23.8.11: BFN

Oct' 11: Consult with ZW clinic. Started Napro charting. 18.1.12: Appt with Dr. B. Have my Napro plan of action, come on my BFP!!!

Dec bloods: Prog: 42 Oestradiol: 606
Jan bloods: Prog: 55 Oestradiol: 386
Feb bloods (first month on napro meds): Prog:59.8 Oestradiol: 956 (cholesterol: 4.86 yay!)
March bloods: Prog: 164.4 Oestradiol: 1701 (?!) (Cholesterol 5.92 boo)
April bloods: Prog: 18.5; Oestradiol: 410.
May bloods: Prog: 90; Oestradiol: 1495; TSH: 2.1; Testosterone: 1.9; Dhea 10.
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Re: Napro

Postby Pema » Thu May 10, 2022 8:44 pm

ooohhhh April, I hope its good news. Big :lvs
TTC Since 2007
2010: 1st L&D (mild PCOS & endo) - MC # 1 (unassisted)
2011: MC # 2 (unassisted) - July Napro - 2nd L&D (remv. endo & ovarian drilling) - Started meds Nov
2012: Meds modified (January + June), Successful FT Feb 2012.
Meds: 10xFemara(CD2), HCG: 5000P-1,2500P+3/5/7/9
Supplements: 1250IU Vit D3, Fertility+, 1250mgFlaxseed Oil, 100mg VitB6, 500mg Vit C (with bio-flavanoids).

Bloods:
Pre-Meds: P=42+; O=500+ (3 cycles tested)
With Meds:
Feb 2012 P=63.8; O=809 (Good Cycle # 1)
Mar 2012 P=70.9; O=603 (Good Cycle # 2)
Apr 2012 P=24.9; O=721 Not a Good Cycle :(
May 2012 P=39; O=844 Not a Good Cycle :(

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Re: Napro

Postby April2005 » Fri May 11, 2022 8:02 am

Happy Friday ladies,

I know what you mean Hopeful, its getting harder to be happy for people. I havent seen FSIL and to be honest I dont want too, Im just not ready, their LO is 13months old & I just feel its not fair.....

Tested last night CD29 14DPO BFN :o( have cramps and am in such BAD form, DH keeps asking whats wrong, I didnt tell him I tested no point upsetting him.

I'll keep ye posted.

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Me 33 DH 40
TTC Jan 07 M/C June 07 & Sept 2011
Joined Napro Oct 10 -Not Ovulating & Low Progestrone & Short LP
The Plan - LDN 4.5mgs 1 a nigth. 5mg Prednisolone daily. Vitamin D3 4 tabs daily, Omega 3, 2 tabs daily. 14 Femara CD3 & 14 Femara CD4, HCG Trigger 20,000 peak, then 5000 p+3+5+7 I'm taking cycolgest until HCG comes in. DH is on the same Vitamin's. Glucophage 3 x 500mg daily
Aleriges - Cow's Milk, Bakers & Brewers Yeast, Potato, Peas, Red Kindey Beans & Blackberries.
Next Appointment with Napro 21st September 2012.
Latest Bloods P= 84.80 O = 253 3rd May 12
P= 70.70 O= 458 29th March 12
P= 89.10 O =522- 28th Feb 12
P= 74.80 O= 420 28th Jan 12


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Re: Napro

Postby pinkydoll » Fri May 11, 2022 8:39 am

Oooohhh April...I have every possible body part crossed for you hun...it ain't over till the witch arrives!!! ;o)
TTC #1 since Jan 2008, Missed m/c April 2009, m/c August 2009.
DH - Low motility
ME - V.Low progesterone, Hypothyroid.
Started NAPRO Oct 2010...currently on Eltroxin 50mcg ,Prednisolone 5mg daily, LDN, Cyclogest 400mg daily,Fematab 2mg daily,Calcichew 500mg daily.
##BFP 13/01/12!!##
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Re: Napro

Postby hopeful1973 » Fri May 11, 2022 8:56 am

April don’t blame you at all not wanting to see your FSIL, when my DH’s bro and SIL announced they were pregnant on their second I had an absolute meltdown, it was awful. And this was before we were even TTCing! We had been fighting for ages about when to start and then this happened and it was just horrendous, we ended up in counselling. I didn’t want to see any of his family for ages after that. And when my own sister announced she was pregnant I had an awful time with it as well, it happened so easily for them and so soon after their wedding that I just felt the monumental unfairness of it all. It’s never easy :action32

Sorry you got a BFN hon, please God AF will stay away and you’ll get a better result tomorrow morning. You’re not overdue your AF yet so you need to test with fmu to get an accurate result xxx

Hx
Me 38, DH 38
AMH 4.8 Feb 2010
IVF No. 1 Sims, Dublin: BFN 13th March 2010
IVF No. 2 Sims, Dublin: BFP 26th July, m/c 14th August 2010
Sept 2010: Chicago bloods results show elevated TNF Alpha cytokines need Humira injections. Started Humira evening 30th Sept... Chicago retest 26th October. 3.11.10: Got retest results, have only dropped to 39.4 from 42.9 (needs to be under 30) two more Humira injections taken.
IVF No. 3 January/February 2011 Gennet, Prague: OTD 5th Feb. BFN...
IVF No. 4, ARGC London. Monitored cycle Chicago bloods showed very elevated cytokines - 64! On Humira. HSG 13th May 11 shows left tube open yay! 20.6.11: Hysteroscopy, all fine. 24.6.11: Chicago retest shows cytokines down to 44. Another 2 humira prescribed. 28.7.11: Started fourth IVF cycle. Two blasts transferred 13.8.11. 23.8.11: BFN

Oct' 11: Consult with ZW clinic. Started Napro charting. 18.1.12: Appt with Dr. B. Have my Napro plan of action, come on my BFP!!!

Dec bloods: Prog: 42 Oestradiol: 606
Jan bloods: Prog: 55 Oestradiol: 386
Feb bloods (first month on napro meds): Prog:59.8 Oestradiol: 956 (cholesterol: 4.86 yay!)
March bloods: Prog: 164.4 Oestradiol: 1701 (?!) (Cholesterol 5.92 boo)
April bloods: Prog: 18.5; Oestradiol: 410.
May bloods: Prog: 90; Oestradiol: 1495; TSH: 2.1; Testosterone: 1.9; Dhea 10.
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Re: Napro

Postby OurYear » Fri May 11, 2022 10:54 am

Hopeful.... I'm stalking you!!! :o0 :o0 Did you have no BB before your AF this cycle... was that the first time?
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Re: Napro

Postby hopeful1973 » Fri May 11, 2022 11:38 am

LOL OurYear :o0

I got very little bb now you mention it, was only just before the red blood started, on CD1. So yeah, a good cycle from that point of view i suppose (she said, attempting to remain positive!!) Haven’t gotten my results yet, must ring for them actually. I would say my prog will be up again from the disaster of last month...

Hx
Me 38, DH 38
AMH 4.8 Feb 2010
IVF No. 1 Sims, Dublin: BFN 13th March 2010
IVF No. 2 Sims, Dublin: BFP 26th July, m/c 14th August 2010
Sept 2010: Chicago bloods results show elevated TNF Alpha cytokines need Humira injections. Started Humira evening 30th Sept... Chicago retest 26th October. 3.11.10: Got retest results, have only dropped to 39.4 from 42.9 (needs to be under 30) two more Humira injections taken.
IVF No. 3 January/February 2011 Gennet, Prague: OTD 5th Feb. BFN...
IVF No. 4, ARGC London. Monitored cycle Chicago bloods showed very elevated cytokines - 64! On Humira. HSG 13th May 11 shows left tube open yay! 20.6.11: Hysteroscopy, all fine. 24.6.11: Chicago retest shows cytokines down to 44. Another 2 humira prescribed. 28.7.11: Started fourth IVF cycle. Two blasts transferred 13.8.11. 23.8.11: BFN

Oct' 11: Consult with ZW clinic. Started Napro charting. 18.1.12: Appt with Dr. B. Have my Napro plan of action, come on my BFP!!!

Dec bloods: Prog: 42 Oestradiol: 606
Jan bloods: Prog: 55 Oestradiol: 386
Feb bloods (first month on napro meds): Prog:59.8 Oestradiol: 956 (cholesterol: 4.86 yay!)
March bloods: Prog: 164.4 Oestradiol: 1701 (?!) (Cholesterol 5.92 boo)
April bloods: Prog: 18.5; Oestradiol: 410.
May bloods: Prog: 90; Oestradiol: 1495; TSH: 2.1; Testosterone: 1.9; Dhea 10.
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Re: Napro

Postby Pema » Fri May 11, 2022 11:58 am

hopeful....hoping you can give me some hope.. :o0
Just wondering, because my Progesterone was crap this month too. Your last result @ P=18; that was before all the new drugs right? So you only had the 10,000 P-1 trigger? Were you taking any progesterone support at the time post peak - cyclogest, pregnyl or utrogeston?

I'll prob find out more next Tuesday in my appt with Dr CG, but I don't understand why this month for me oestrogen was so good, as thats supposed to tell us the quality of the egg we released....but my P was so poor, which means I didn't even ovulate, yet I was on the HCG pre & post peak + the femara. I'm questioning did the lab write my results in right, but no point hassling my GP's nurse...altho shes lovely, she'll think I'm mad :o0 Then another part of me thinks: great, maybe we're found another issue that can be fixed and then we'll get our BFP. But I know I need a few months of the issue in a row to change the meds. Ah, the mixed emotions of ttc!! :heartbeat:
TTC Since 2007
2010: 1st L&D (mild PCOS & endo) - MC # 1 (unassisted)
2011: MC # 2 (unassisted) - July Napro - 2nd L&D (remv. endo & ovarian drilling) - Started meds Nov
2012: Meds modified (January + June), Successful FT Feb 2012.
Meds: 10xFemara(CD2), HCG: 5000P-1,2500P+3/5/7/9
Supplements: 1250IU Vit D3, Fertility+, 1250mgFlaxseed Oil, 100mg VitB6, 500mg Vit C (with bio-flavanoids).

Bloods:
Pre-Meds: P=42+; O=500+ (3 cycles tested)
With Meds:
Feb 2012 P=63.8; O=809 (Good Cycle # 1)
Mar 2012 P=70.9; O=603 (Good Cycle # 2)
Apr 2012 P=24.9; O=721 Not a Good Cycle :(
May 2012 P=39; O=844 Not a Good Cycle :(

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Re: Napro

Postby hopeful1973 » Fri May 11, 2022 1:36 pm

Hey Pema

My results last month were before all the extra new meds, but I had already been on 5 femara on CD3, trigger (10000 pregnyl) on CD12 and cyclogest from peak + 3 for 10 nights. Dr. B said at the time that my bloods would be Crap (and he was right!) because of a delayed reaction from the tubal catheterisation op I’d had a few weeks before. He reckoned my system would be reacting to it. Did you have any ops recently?

I have a call into my GPs about my blood results from last week so am hoping to get them back today.

Will be very interesting to see what your doc says at your review.

Hx
Me 38, DH 38
AMH 4.8 Feb 2010
IVF No. 1 Sims, Dublin: BFN 13th March 2010
IVF No. 2 Sims, Dublin: BFP 26th July, m/c 14th August 2010
Sept 2010: Chicago bloods results show elevated TNF Alpha cytokines need Humira injections. Started Humira evening 30th Sept... Chicago retest 26th October. 3.11.10: Got retest results, have only dropped to 39.4 from 42.9 (needs to be under 30) two more Humira injections taken.
IVF No. 3 January/February 2011 Gennet, Prague: OTD 5th Feb. BFN...
IVF No. 4, ARGC London. Monitored cycle Chicago bloods showed very elevated cytokines - 64! On Humira. HSG 13th May 11 shows left tube open yay! 20.6.11: Hysteroscopy, all fine. 24.6.11: Chicago retest shows cytokines down to 44. Another 2 humira prescribed. 28.7.11: Started fourth IVF cycle. Two blasts transferred 13.8.11. 23.8.11: BFN

Oct' 11: Consult with ZW clinic. Started Napro charting. 18.1.12: Appt with Dr. B. Have my Napro plan of action, come on my BFP!!!

Dec bloods: Prog: 42 Oestradiol: 606
Jan bloods: Prog: 55 Oestradiol: 386
Feb bloods (first month on napro meds): Prog:59.8 Oestradiol: 956 (cholesterol: 4.86 yay!)
March bloods: Prog: 164.4 Oestradiol: 1701 (?!) (Cholesterol 5.92 boo)
April bloods: Prog: 18.5; Oestradiol: 410.
May bloods: Prog: 90; Oestradiol: 1495; TSH: 2.1; Testosterone: 1.9; Dhea 10.
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Re: Napro

Postby Pema » Fri May 11, 2022 5:22 pm

thx hopeful...yeah, I had crap bloods too after my lap last October but no ops since so don't know what the story is :action34 . The interesting thing is my AF was way different too - usually it lasts 5 -6 days...it was more or less finished after 2, and I only have a small amount of BB today (CD 4). This is the first time that has ever happened to me (I'm tracking my cycles for 7 years). So there is something funny happening with me, whatever it is....maybe my body's decided to take a holiday without telling me :cool !! Altho it'll only be CD 8, I'm sure she'll scan me Tuesday so we'll see if there's any gremlins in there trying to mess up my plans.... :o0

Looking forward to hearing how ur bloods are from your last tests. It sounds like all the meds are already doing something with the big decrease in BB... FX
TTC Since 2007
2010: 1st L&D (mild PCOS & endo) - MC # 1 (unassisted)
2011: MC # 2 (unassisted) - July Napro - 2nd L&D (remv. endo & ovarian drilling) - Started meds Nov
2012: Meds modified (January + June), Successful FT Feb 2012.
Meds: 10xFemara(CD2), HCG: 5000P-1,2500P+3/5/7/9
Supplements: 1250IU Vit D3, Fertility+, 1250mgFlaxseed Oil, 100mg VitB6, 500mg Vit C (with bio-flavanoids).

Bloods:
Pre-Meds: P=42+; O=500+ (3 cycles tested)
With Meds:
Feb 2012 P=63.8; O=809 (Good Cycle # 1)
Mar 2012 P=70.9; O=603 (Good Cycle # 2)
Apr 2012 P=24.9; O=721 Not a Good Cycle :(
May 2012 P=39; O=844 Not a Good Cycle :(

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Re: Napro

Postby Libby75 » Sat May 12, 2022 8:01 am

Morning Girls,

I hope ur all keeping well. I haven't been posting but I read daily. It's lovely to see the pregnancy tickers progressing so well and I hope there'll be many more BFP's in the coming weeks :babydust:

April, I read ur Oest was low this month. Just to let u know mine was too in Jan when I didn't take my HCG and it came back up the following month so don't worry. Hope AF stays away and there's a new string of BFP's.

No news with me, everything seems ok but just not getting a BFP. Don't know what's left for me to take or do. BTW, took exputex for Cm this cycle and it's the best CM I've had in ages. Better than the Mucodyne and anti biotics. Also since my HSG in Dec I have no BB in my cycle and I had it for nearly 3 yrs of charting. It's so frustrating watching friends and family getting preg easily. There's been 4 births in 2 months in my family and another one due in a few months so I know how each of u are feeling. Life is cruel in the ttc world:-)

Hope to be reading some new BFP stories on this thread soon. Take care x
TTC # 4. Joined NAPRO May 2011

Meds

X 9 Femera CD3

Cyclogest x 10 from P+3

LDN nightly

Pregnyl 10,000 P-1

Blood results
Sep bloods, P 66, O 456
Oct bloods, P 85, O 610
Nov bloods, P140, O 698
Dec bloods, P 69, O 420 (left tube unblocked)
Jan bloods, P 106, O 298 (No HCG taken)
Feb bloods, P 87.4, O 444
Mar bloods, P192, O 529
April bloods, P85.4, O 518
May bloods,
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Re: Napro

Postby hopeful1973 » Sat May 12, 2022 3:42 pm

Hi girls

Pema, the doc didn't ring me back yesterday, bit irritated as I'd rung early enough. Will have to phone again on Monday. I wish my AF lasted a bit longer, I can't imagine having such a short AF helps things. I think I'll email Dr B about it, see what he says. What day are you on now? Am CD4 myself, took my femara yesterday, have to get my new months' meds next week though (have managed to get a month ahead of myself with femara cos the first pharmacist though Dr .B had written 9 femara when he'd actually written 5! So I've had an extra four at the end of each month :o0 )

I just hope the reduction in bb continues, you know the way things with Napro can go up and down from month to month, doesn't necessarily follow that it always keeps getting better.

Libby, re the Exputex when did you take it and for how long? Is the cough bottle actually called Exputex? Is there a brand on it? I was on mucodyne last month and it did help, although I'd be as happy to try the Exputex.

Hx
Me 38, DH 38
AMH 4.8 Feb 2010
IVF No. 1 Sims, Dublin: BFN 13th March 2010
IVF No. 2 Sims, Dublin: BFP 26th July, m/c 14th August 2010
Sept 2010: Chicago bloods results show elevated TNF Alpha cytokines need Humira injections. Started Humira evening 30th Sept... Chicago retest 26th October. 3.11.10: Got retest results, have only dropped to 39.4 from 42.9 (needs to be under 30) two more Humira injections taken.
IVF No. 3 January/February 2011 Gennet, Prague: OTD 5th Feb. BFN...
IVF No. 4, ARGC London. Monitored cycle Chicago bloods showed very elevated cytokines - 64! On Humira. HSG 13th May 11 shows left tube open yay! 20.6.11: Hysteroscopy, all fine. 24.6.11: Chicago retest shows cytokines down to 44. Another 2 humira prescribed. 28.7.11: Started fourth IVF cycle. Two blasts transferred 13.8.11. 23.8.11: BFN

Oct' 11: Consult with ZW clinic. Started Napro charting. 18.1.12: Appt with Dr. B. Have my Napro plan of action, come on my BFP!!!

Dec bloods: Prog: 42 Oestradiol: 606
Jan bloods: Prog: 55 Oestradiol: 386
Feb bloods (first month on napro meds): Prog:59.8 Oestradiol: 956 (cholesterol: 4.86 yay!)
March bloods: Prog: 164.4 Oestradiol: 1701 (?!) (Cholesterol 5.92 boo)
April bloods: Prog: 18.5; Oestradiol: 410.
May bloods: Prog: 90; Oestradiol: 1495; TSH: 2.1; Testosterone: 1.9; Dhea 10.
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Re: Napro

Postby perle » Sun May 13, 2022 9:04 am

Hopeful exputex is the name of the cough bottle. It comes in a pink and white box and any chemist will have it.
I want to ask your advice about something... Yesterday morning (p + 7) I woke up at 5 with a really bad period pain. It was as bad if not worse than any cramp I would get on day 1 of AF. I went to the loo and had a small bowel motion and passed some gas ( sorry tmi I know!) and then it went. It prob only lasted 10 mins and have had no pain since. Any ideas what this might be? I'm guessing it was too severe to be implantation. Is is maybe related to the endo I had removed last June from my pouch of Douglas? It kind of freaked myself and my husband out. Never had anything like that before. Thanks girls and sorry again for the tmi!
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